I am vegan so why hasn't any of this happened to me?

I didn't loose any muscle and am by no means weak due to my diet and in fact I gained muscle. Currently I Bike 4-6 times a week usually somewhere around 10-25 miles. Not extremely impressive but its certainly not possible for someone who is supposedly protein deficient.

And of course lets not forget all the vegan bodybuilders and athletes that (accourding to J. Stanton) should be protein deficient and on the verge of death. (Mac Danzig, Brendan Brazier)

AND the older people who are vegan and look good and healthy. (Mimi Kirk, Jim Morris)

Simply put most ex vegans probably were doing it wrong.

Of course don't let these simple and obvious facts get in the way of you claiming vegan diets are something that will barely keep you alive.

I am vegan so why hasn't any of this happened to me?

I didn't loose any muscle and am by no means weak due to my diet and in fact I gained muscle. Currently I Bike 4-6 times a week usually somewhere around 10-25 miles. Not extremely impressive but its certainly not possible for someone who is supposedly protein deficient.

And of course lets not forget all the vegan bodybuilders and athletes that (according to J. Stanton) should be protein deficient and on the verge of death. (Mac Danzig, Brendan Brazier)

AND the older people who are vegan and look good and healthy. (Mimi Kirk, Jim Morris)

Simply put most ex vegans probably were doing it wrong.

Of course don't let these simple and obvious facts get in the way of you claiming vegan diets are something that will barely keep you alive.

WTF, is this? I've been vegan for 24 years and two of those I've been a successful, happy low fat raw vegan. Part of the problem with some of these folks who like to refer to themselves as raw vegan is that they get advice from the wrong people. They load up their bodies on a whole host of so-called superfood and don't bother to focus on proper caloric intake or nutrition. I've yet to see anyone lose teeth that is follow a correct raw vegan diet. My idea of a correct raw vegan diet is one that is high in calories from fruit, veggies, and I recommend sprouts, fermented foods. and yes, some supplementation. Better safe then sorry but I want you to know I have all of my pearly whites and none of them have fallen out because I had been vegan long enough to learn to weed through the garbage the raw gurus were telling me and to seek out the correct information for me. Plenty of others have done the same. So, please be careful before you group us all together. We aren't all the same. There are those who attempt a high raw diet that fill themselves up on mock dishes intended to mimic their cooked counterparts, and then there are those of us who choose to enjoy the bounty of foods given to us by mother earth in their complete form. No dehydration is necessary.

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I'm not against the train of thought in this article, but not all vegans suffer health problems. The classic example is endurance runner Scott Jurek.

http://www.vegetariantimes.com/features/editors_picks/750

Q Have coaches or fellow runners expressed skepticism about your diet?
A I've definitely had people give me a hard time about it, but I was churning out top performances year after year, so it was hard to argue with me!

Scott runs 150 mile races and has been vegan for over a decade. That would not be possible if he could not thrive on a vegan diet.

Just as proponents of the lipid hypothesis have to explain why Eskimos can survive without heart attacks on a high saturated fat diet, proponents of a high meat high fat diet have to explain outliers like Scott Jurek.

Does the author cite anything scientific to back up his ficticious nonsense? Of course not. He's bloviating the same old lunatic fringe inane fatuity.

Vegans need to supplement a very few things, B12 and DHA among them. DHA is created by algae and many consumerists get it second hand through mercurial fish oil supplements, the mindless, callous, shallow leaches on the environment that they are.

There is a patented supplement created from algae, readily available through many products on the market. A little online research will take you straight to the source.

Cow and chicken eaters need to supplement essentially everything because, as the depraved knuckle dragging purveyors of animal cruelty that they are, they get almost nothing of value from their vermin and pathetic diets.

These are the corporatists who relish the idea that they are contributing to factory-farm scale animal cruelty. The idea of animal cruelty makes the dirty rotten small-minded bastards giddy. These are NOT good or decent people. Avoid these vile and wretched bastards, whatever it takes.

Mike: "proponents of a high meat high fat diet have to explain outliers like Scott Jurek."

You just answered your own question - genetic outliers. Other genetic outliers that went the opposite direction like Lierre Keith got a painful spinal degenerative disease.

Keith wrote The Vegetarian Myth, which I recommend along with Meat: A benign Extravagance for open-minded veg*ns because of the wide array of environmental, nutritional & ethical issues they tackle.

Keith herself was a hardcore type of vegan who believed the '70s era propaganda that veganism = 100% healthy. She didn't even use a multivitamin if I remember correctly. (Even so, it looks like the type of spinal degeneration she got was due in part to genetics as other vegan critics say that this should not have happened).

This is the kind of nutritionally ignorant veganism this post criticizes. It's the old mentality that says since apes and horses are super strong and healthy on a vegan diet so should you... And yes, there are still people who believe in variants of this. Worse still is the low-fat veg*n crowd who shun coconut oil, etc. (but shunning tofu is good since researchers at Honolulu discovered long-term consumption shrinks your brain), since the lipid hypothesis was controversial from the very beginning and after countless studies and dollars thrown at it no one has been able to prove that fat & cholesterol causes heart disease - it's been debunked by serious researchers and only the governmnet-mandated food pyramid is keeping it alive (gov't doesn't want to admit they screwed up)

Another problem is some people like Scott Jurek have the genes to do well eating plants only but some people suck at it so much even supplements won't help their nutritional deficiencies.

Keep in mind that humans are terrible at eating plants. Even chimps can eat things that are poisonous to us, and herbivores like goats can eat poison ivy like it was nothing. Some bugs can eat plants that are so toxic insectivores can die if they eat them. Our only advantage is me genetically modified so many plants through selective breeding that we disabled most of their anti-predation chemical defenses and made them tastier... to the point where we have to constantly spray pesticides and fungicides on them if they are to have any chance of survival.

I have to disagree with this information, but I have merely been vegan for 17 years now, still I may not fit in this stereotypical hippy superfood fashionist style what most people associate vegans with. For me it is not a question of choice though, as my body can't utilise animal fat and that basically reduces my choices from different kinds of cheese and meat to bare zero. Tough, as I liked both of them. During past decade there fortunately has been some spread of knowledge and many essential amino acids needed for protein binding have to be found from vegetables. Most of foods I have to make by myself due to fact, that restaurants serve those aforementioned (usually young) fanatics.

Just my 2 cents. 🙂

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Your health is of no importance to me. So feel free to eat, smoke and drink whatever you wish. But I'm a brass tacks factual type person and we need meat it's just that simple. If you feel over the counter pills will supplement your bodys needs knock yourself out. I only hope and pray that if you choose to be veegan (spell it right!) you do not force it upon your children and hope that pregnant women would delay there vegetarianisms until they have their babies. As your growing childrens health shouldn't be comprimised by your opionions.