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3:33 am
QuoteIf you're a vegetarian who eats dairy, fish, and eggs, and are on a strict budget, how should you spend the money to maximize nutrition and minimize the negative effects of hormones, chemicals, mercury, and antibiotics found in these sources? For instance, if you're buying factory eggs, should you limit your egg consumption? There needs to be a paleo pecking order for people who can't afford and/or don't have access to free-range, antibiotic-free, pastured products.
6:57 am
Sylvie, what is 'paleo'?
I just got finished with a fascinating book, Unlearn, Rewild, by Miles Olson. This man and his 'tribe' of modern primitives lives pretty close to a 'paleolithic' lifestyle. Our paleolithic ancestors did not rely on domesticated animals and plants for food. Miles describes a lifestyle that is intimately associated with the land one lives on. Not once did he mention the need for pastured eggs, raw milk, or grass fed beef. He does recommend eating insects and wild game. He also mentions learning about local plants that can be useful, too.
So, what is 'paleo'? Is it just another marketing term to get consumers to buy more expensive and presumeably healthier food? Perhaps, instead of striving for some ideal presented by the gurus of the moment, one can simply start from the basics. Weston A Price concluded that refined sugars and white flour (and all the products made from them) caused malnutrition and physical degeneration. So, while one may not be able to afford expensive eggs or dairy, one can eliminate the worst offenders of "the displacing foods of modern commerce" from one's diet. Start with the basics and go from there. If that means one has to eat CAFO eggs and dairy for the time being, just accept that it is a stage in a process of gradual improvement.
Best of luck to you in your journey!
12:03 am
February 22, 2010
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sylvie:
Follow the link Fmgd gave.
And remember: it is axiomatic that you have to eat something. If you stop eating meat or eggs because you're worried about antibiotics or hormones, you'll have to eat something else instead -- something made of nutritionally empty, pesticide-drenched GMO corn, soy, or wheat.
Eggs, for example, are so packed with nutrition that even the worst factory eggs are better than not eating eggs at all! Same with most paleo foods: CAFO beef is better than not eating meat, conventional cabbage is better than not eating vegetables, etc.
That being said, if you're pescetarian, you really do have to watch out for methylmercury content -- and eating wild ocean fish doesn't help. Also, even the cheapest China-farmed fish, like tilapia, is more expensive than beef, pork, or chicken...
However, if you're adamant about remaining pescetarian, canned mackerel, sardines, etc. will help stretch your budget, as well as provide you lots of healthy omega-3 fat. If you have the money to spare, pastured eggs are the first thing I'd upgrade from standard industrial supermarket food.
Dave:
Exactly. CAFO eggs are better than not eating eggs.
JS
2:05 am
Mr Staton,
What do you think about the research suggesting that fish with more selenium than mercury is safe? (As is the case with non-predatory ocean fish)
Paper here: http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/oceanography/courses_html/OCN331/Mercury3.pdf
12:09 am
February 22, 2010
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Meatnomnom:
I've seen that study, and the Chris Kresser article based on it.
Note that the study is:
1. A rat study
2. It only checked the rats for gross developmental deformity (excessively low weight, hind-limb crossing)
The doses required to cause neural and cognitive damage in humans are (AFAIK) orders of magnitude smaller than the doses required to cause gross developmental deformity in humans: note that nowhere in the annals of "Minamata disease" (methylmercury poisoning) is growth impairment noted as an effect.
So I'm suspicious that selenium is or can be totally protective of methylmercury poisoning...especially in children and fetuses.
JS
1:09 pm
Woo: Eating more protein reduces edema??? I had thought I was losing water weight just from the reduction in carbs --> reduction in insulin --> kidneys were doing their job. But if the eating the protein reduces edema in other ways, that is really good news for me. I have had problems with edema since I was 18. I don't know what's up, have never found out and am not sure it'd be worth wrestling with doctors for a diagnosis. BUT, I *do* have issues with not getting a lot of protein even as a low-carber. I just... don't eat a lot. It's crazy. So, that's something I need to watch out for in future. Maybe I can finally put this stupid mystery condition to bed.
Stanton: Fish vs. methylmercury... fish contains selenium, which helps adult human bodies detox from mercury. (We are better at this than kids are, which is one reason mercury is so dangerous for them.) If it were me and I were pescetarian, I would still skip the major predator fish like swordfish and shark, but something like salmon ought to be safe enough.
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