10:52 am
June 5, 2011
Italians have not eaten the way they do today forever - it's a relatively new thing. In fact, many Italians don't eat that way at all ... go up north and they eat meat and vegetables. Yes, pasta is practically ubiquitous but even then. It's a massive generalisation, but I wouldn't look at the archetypal older Italian and immediately think "healthy".
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10:33 pm
Been reading up on some stuff, so basically this diet puts you in ketosis, right? And that's how we become more efficient fat burners?
Max
7:30 am
September 24, 2012
Not necessarily. Total carb grams at 50 or below will put you in ketosis, but some people don't sleep well on that low a carb count (me included. Tried multiple times. Never really slept through the night.)
You can still have fatty acid oxidation and not be in ketosis.
Jen
"Often we forget . . . the sky reaches to the ground . . . with each step . . . we fly." ~We Fly, The House Jacks
4:25 pm
February 22, 2010
Paul N:
It's worth trying a Whole 30 and seeing what it does for you.
Saddra:
The human gut is strongly dissimilar to those of both chimpanzees and gorillas. First, it's much smaller in total. Second, our small intestine comprises much more of it, and our large intestine (colon) comprises a much smaller proportion.
This is exactly what we would expect for an animal which became more dependent on easily-digested animal fat and protein (absorbed in the small intestine), and less dependent on plant matter (fermented in the colon).
So yes, humans are omnivores, not carnivores -- but we're far more carnivorous than our primate ancestors. (Recall that even chimpanzees eat a meaningful quantity of meat.) If we were still folivorous or frugivorous, we wouldn't need our gigantic brains, and we'd still be little 60-pound forest-dwelling apes with 350cc brains. I explore this subject at length in this series of articles.
Max:
A high-carb diet based on rice is far better than a high-carb diet based on wheat, and the statistics bear that out -- but a diet based on fat is better still. The oft-mentioned traditional Okinawan diet is very heavy on pork and lard, in addition to rice; the traditional Tokelauan diet gets over 50% of its calories from coconut fat; and so on.
Diet isn't one of those things you have to get perfect or else die young. It turns out that most major improvements (e.g. being gluten-free) correlate with increased absolute and functional lifespan.
More soon!
JS
4:30 pm
February 22, 2010
Paul Halliday:
Exactly. The Western interpretation of the "Mediterranean diet" is not exactly in congruence with the variety of actual Mediterranean diets that exist.
Max:
No, ketosis isn't the objective of this diet: you need to keep carbs very low to do that, as Jen mentioned above. (Consuming the MCTs in coconut oil helps a lot, too.) Being a more efficient fat-burner (which Mark Sisson talks about a lot) is a consequence of metabolic flexibility, which is not the same thing as ketosis: I discuss the difference in this article.
Summary: it's possible to eat like a predator and be in ketosis, but it's not necessary. Eating carbohydrate in line with your body's needs, not snacking, and periodic exercise appear to be your primary tools for regaining your ability to oxidize fat for energy.
JS
11:20 pm
Very motivational, thank you. Is your position on supplementing fish oil still firm?
1:21 pm
February 22, 2010
Martin:
I know a lot of people claim that fish oil caps are necessarily rancid and therefore harmful -- but I've not yet seen any actual proof of that. (Meanwhile, people are happily taking fermented cod liver oil...) There's a reason they put vitamin E and/or other tocopherols in there, and package them in an opaque container, which is to prevent oxidation. Just to be safe, I buy mine from major, high-volume mail-order retailers and store them in the refrigerator.
Meanwhile, it's always preferable to get EPA+DHA from real food, and I remain open to new evidence. Yes, I've seen the study that says fish oil caps don't have a significant effect on heart disease vs. fish consumption. However, as with any other uncontrolled, retrospective, self-reported dietary analysis, the number of potential confounding factors is so large that I'm reluctant to jump from there to "FISH OIL IS RANCID" (just to choose one example, people who actually eat fish probably have a much healthier diet in other ways), and the other benefits are large enough that I still recommend it for people who aren't getting it via food.
JS
5:25 am
"Remember: if you can put it in a truck and the truck starts, it’s not food."
I apologize, but I'm an engineer geek. Diesel engines can run on anything that can "burn" due to pressure changes...yadda yadda. So they can run on coconut oil, olive oil, or any fat that we use to cook.
"Cook with butter, coconut oil, and grass-fed beef tallow."
Awl, now I'm confused... 😉 Sorry I just had to throw that out there, but I get the point. I enjoyed the article.
6:05 pm
February 22, 2010
Megan:
AFAIK even the purest of refined vegetable oils won't start a truck without first undergoing transesterification. And as coconut oil is solid below 74 degrees F (and beef tallow is solid at 90+), they pose some obvious practical problems! So olive oil is perhaps the only usable exception to my rule of thumb.
Your point is taken, though: technically one can use almost any oil as "fuel".
JS
10:41 am
Thanks for this article. Its very informative & I love the way you convey the predator concept! The exercise bit is what I did not quite understand and/or agree with completely. Certainly, no one should be exercising on a treadmill, granted. But I do not see what is wrong with running/jogging (cardio). I'm a firm believer that running is a very natural movement for us humans and we should all be doing more of it, especially if its outdoors. What are you referring to when you say 'periodic bursts of short, intense exercise'. It would be great if you could shed some light on this, like give some more practical examples of the sort of physical activity you are referring to.
11:37 pm
February 22, 2010
Lara:
I tend to agree with Mark Sisson that lots of walking and other low-impact activity, plus occasional intense effort, is most healthy and sustainable over the long term. The much-vaunted "persistence hunting" seems to involve average speeds of 4 MPH...a 15-minute mile, which is a brisk walk for most.
What seems to work for me is some sort of low-impact exercise every day, usually an easy bike ride comparable to a brisk walk or very slow jog, and taking 30-45 minutes. Every few days I'll do something much more intense, like a heavy barbell workout in the gym (taking 60-75 minutes), and every so often I'll do something really big, like an all-day mountain bike ride or backcountry ski tour. (Or, under exceptional circumstances, climbing a mountain fasted. Make sure to read the beginning of the article for some science on why every-day endurance exercise is counterproductive.) Other examples would be game day in a competitive sport like soccer or basketball, a Crossfit metcon, an intense HIIT/Tabata workout, etc. Note that genuine 100% efforts require at least three days for full recovery...
Jamie Scott frequently writes about exercise and training within different energy systems.
JS
11:12 am
Awesome article! thank you. I love how you relate the way we eat and play as predators to having a mentality that is assertive and not whiny. Great job!
1:18 am
February 22, 2010
Ben:
It's easy to fall into the long-disproved Cartesian trap of mind/body duality -- but this is the 21st century, and we need to understand that sound nutrition improves our mental functioning as well as our physical functioning.
JS
8:17 am
I've been a Paleo follower for a long time now. However, recently I stumbled across literature about Neu5gc, suggesting that a diet inclusive of mammalian meat and dairy will lead to chronic inflammation. Since I have been on paleo my inflammatory condition has improved but not gone away and I believe this could be due to my high red meat consumption. What are your thoughts on Neu5gc?
8:32 am
June 5, 2011
Chris Kresser has an article on the matter: http://chriskresser.com/does-red-meat-cause-inflammation
I do wonder whether eating the organ meats as well as muscle meats might well dispel much of the "problem" that has been found.
Living in the Ice Age
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11:58 am
My digestive system seems to love raw.. beef (tartar), fish (sushi), oysters (raw bar) , etc..
Is there such a thing as "raw paleo" diet?
Thanks much !
3:14 pm
June 5, 2011
Yes, there is … and it's quite laudable.
I love raw meat, even organs, and when I do cook them I drop them into a smoking hot pan to sear the outside and kill off surface bacteria … the rest is raw.
Fish, I'd eat raw more often if I could vouch for the source and the length of time they've been out of the water. Fish straight from the water is phenomenally good. Shellfish, you've got to be careful. Still, if it makes you sick … you've done the right and natural thing: EJECT! If you don't, the food was good.
Ceviche is another method: acidic juice over sliced fish. Eat, enjoy.
Yes, our digestive systems are there to digest meat as we were intended to get it. Raw, straight from a fresh kill.
Living in the Ice Age
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3:06 am
February 22, 2010
Harry Smith:
The nutrition community is frantically casting about for some way to "prove" that red meat is bad for you, despite our multimillion-year history of eating it and lots of epidemiology showing it isn't. They're down to hincty suppositions like Neu5gc and TMAO that require 'proofs' like "We fed the equivalent of 1000 steaks worth of carnitine to mice (which are seed-eating mostly-vegetarians) and projected our numbers based on one single human test subject."
Tip: before believing any of that, check to see whether Chris Masterjohn or Denise Minger haven't already debunked it. And as I said in the article, "Don’t let breathless ‘news’ articles tell you that a new industrial product is your key to better health, or that what humans have eaten for millions of years will kill you."
Steve King:
Absolutely. There are whole forums dedicated to the subject! Myself, I consume plenty of raw fish (sushi, gravlax), and sometimes even raw meat.
JS
8:48 am
luv it this will be my first time trying it wish me luck have friends hat did great so hell tried everything elese why not. Where can I find some cooking ideas my fam not on board yet so it will be for one person and can I still juice love my green juice in the morn.
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