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Does Meat Rot In Your Colon? No. What Does? Beans, Grains, and Vegetables!
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November 18, 2011
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Isabella:

Though I consider myself a polymath, computational chemistry is outside my field of expertise.

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November 26, 2011
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[...] Meat doesn’t rot in your colon – grains do. Another study shows that grass-fed red meat is healthier. A diet high in fat is not fattening. A ted talk on using diet to stop angiogenesis. And a diet high in carbohydrates is linked to cancer. So while low carb seems better for reducing cancer and heart disease, its best to keep it high in vegetables. [...]

November 26, 2011
8:06 am
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So if you don't fart, if there is no evidence of corn out the back end when eaten with steak, then does that mean the person makes enzymes that digests these foods well?

November 30, 2011
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Amy:

Most likely it means you've chewed your food well.  The corn kernels you see in poop are mostly just the cellulosic shell of the kernel, which humans don't have the enzymes to digest.  (No animals do.)

However, zein is still poor quality protein which we don't digest well, and corn, like most grains, is chock-full of phytate and other antinutrients (there's a reason corn gluten meal is used as an herbicide) -- so I can't recommend it as a food source even if you tolerate it well.

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December 5, 2011
8:25 am
Jake
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Hi, it says on Wikipedia that corn gluten meal can be used as a herbicide because of the proteins, nothing about "phytate and other antinutrients". There are also studies about phytates anti-cancer properties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_gluten_meal#Herbicide
Proteins in CGM inhibit root formation on newly-germinated seeds, killing the plant. Applications must be timed so that the CGM is present and effective as seeds are germinating.

December 5, 2011
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Jake:

You're correct that my statement was somewhat unclear: CGM isn't an herbicide because of phytate, it's an herbicide because of the properties of the protein.

Yes, there are studies about phytate's anti-cancer properties...but there are myriad other compounds in vegetables, fruits, and meats (see:carnosine) which have stronger anti-cancer properties AND which don't prevent us from absorbing essential dietary minerals.

JS

December 6, 2011
12:05 pm
Rebecca H.
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Any of you that think humans were meant to be meat eaters are wrong. I've been a vegeatarian for four years now. The thing is my family has a history of heart disease. Four years, my doctor said I was at risk for heart disease. I was scared. I didn't know what to do. So I did some research on the internet and found that being vegetarian was the best diet for preventing heart disease. So I went vegetarian and am loving it since. I just recently went to my cardiologist for a check up and he said that I wasn't at risk for heart disease anymore. I hope people one day realize that we're better off vegetarians.

December 6, 2011
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Rebecca H:

We weren't "meant" to eat anything.  Evolution doesn't work that way.  What archaeology makes clear is that:

-We've provably been eating meat for millions of years (see: Bouri, Gona, Koobi Fora).  Even chimpanzees and bonobos eat monkeys, with great violence and relish.

-Eating meat allowed us to leave the tropical rainforests.  If we were vegetarians, we'd still be stuck in the trees of equatorial Africa.

-Eating meat allowed our brains to quadruple in size, at the expense of our ability to extract meaningful nutrition from raw plants (see: Expensive Tissue Hypothesis).

-Therefore, eating meat is, quite literally, what made us human. 

As far as improvements from your diet, I don't doubt you've experienced them.  But as the statistics clearly show, "vegetarianism" is far more closely associated with a lower intake of sugar, sweets, and processed junk, and a higher intake of vegetables and fruit -- which is a healthy practice for anyone -- and most "vegetarians" eat lots of meat anyway!  (Fish isn't a vegetable.) 

Given the myriad of positive dietary changes (no seed oils, no sugar, no refined grains, maximize vegetables, minimize whole grains) recommended by people like Ornish and Esselstyn, it's silly to ascribe the benefits to the lack of meat.

As far as "being vegetarian was the best diet for preventing heart disease", you might find this study interesting:

Mayo Clin Proc. 2003 Nov;78(11):1331-6.
Effect of a high saturated fat and no-starch diet on serum lipid subfractions in patients with documented atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease.
Hays JH, DiSabatino A, Gorman RT, Vincent S, Stillabower ME.

(This is just a starting point: I've got pages of references.)

And given the nutritional emptiness of grains relative to animal products, it's clear that you'd be even healthier if you ditched the grains altogether and incorporated some nutrient-rich animal foods in your diet (egg yolks, fatty fish, organ meats, etc.)

JS

December 11, 2011
3:26 am
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Informative article, thank you. Though, I have always wondered why I experienced a painful, knotted feeling in my abdomen following the consumption of meat. Don't get me wrong, I don't advocate any one thing such as veganism, vegetarianism or an all-meat diet. I just wish I had an explanation for the abdominal upset I have, and it only ever accompanies a meal that includes meat. I initially attributed it to the poor combination of carbohydrates with the proteins/fats and thus tried eating the meat alone. Despite experimenting several times, I invariably experienced the I did the same unrelenting gastric distress. Why do you think this is?

December 12, 2011
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Bec:

I can't possibly give useful advice without more information.

What kinds of meat have you experience this with?  Beef, pork, chicken, lamb?

Does the form of the meat make any difference?  Steak vs. hamburger vs. pot roast vs. chili?

What about broth?  Does soup made with beef or chicken stock cause problems?

What about collagen?  Does gelatin cause problems?

Finally, I assume you've been vegetarian or vegan for some time: how long?

JS

December 20, 2011
2:40 pm
Molly Ryan-Fisher
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If you follow the Perfect Health Diet - they recommend unlimited veggies. How does that jibe with the above article about veggies rotting in your gut. Surely some rotting is beneficial - kimchee, sauerkraut. Is there a benefit ito eatnig veggies n terms of fiber - to "clean sweep" the colon?

December 20, 2011
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Molly:

Like I said above, "I'm not saying that no one should eat vegetables — I'm just busting a silly myth."

If your gut flora are healthy and in good balance, gut fermentation of a reasonable amount of vegetables (not beans or grains!) can produce some quantity of beneficial SCFAs (e.g. butyric acid).  And that's what's behind the recommendation for fermented vegetables: first, the bacteria that ferment them are (for the most part) beneficial, and can help populate your colon (or at least temporarily outcompete the bad ones, like Clostridium).  Second, they're pre-rotted — instead of having to ferment in your gut, they've already been fermented in a tank!

I love the Perfect Health Diet, by the way, and count the Jaminets as friends.  Note that they don't recommend you actually consume unlimited amounts of vegetables AFAIK — just that they don't count towards carbohydrate intake.

I haven't seen any evidence that insoluble fiber is good for you…the only controlled studies show either no effect or (not quite significant) increased mortality.  And the scare stores about toxic waste building up in your colon are complete baloney designed to sell you overpriced mixtures of psyllium husk, bentonite clay, and diuretics — or, even worse, high colonic enemas.

JS

December 21, 2011
2:31 am
Carol
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I just want to thank you for this little spat of information! I just recently had some digestive surgery and afterwords i noticed that eating vegetable by themselves say in a salad would cause me to have discomfort and i could see everything that i ate after i went to the bathroom a couple hours later. However i noticed that when i ate a certain amount of meat before consuming vegetable i would have a much happy system. Now it all makes since!! Many friends and family members as well as a doctor would tell me that if i just ate more veggies i would be fine but the more i ate the worse i felt until my little revelation! Now i am going to show all of them this information. THANK YOU!!

December 21, 2011
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Carol:

I'm glad I've been able to help you -- that's a big motivation for me to keep writing.  Do stick around!

JS

January 3, 2012
12:47 pm
Mark
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I still wonder about PORK in particular. Is there a substantial difference for eating pork? Any exceptions??

I have a friend that swears pork stays in the colon for 14 days. What about pork???

January 3, 2012
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Mark:

I can't find any research that indicates pork is digested differently than other meats, and I can't think of any biochemical reason why it would be.

You might ask your friend where he found that particular piece of "information".  I guarantee it's of a piece with the other vegetarian myths, such as "John Wayne died with 40 pounds of meat in his colon" -- pure baloney made up to scare the uninformed.

JS

January 6, 2012
10:58 pm
christopher
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i'm from the third world and i can say f*ck you.
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The problem isn't the industrialized countries?
well, it is!
the civilization in general. but especially the industrialized countries, which are doing the largest ecological footprint and sustaining civilization.
it isn't the population... it's a important factor of course. but not the only one and certainly not the most important.

i agree with the rest...

January 7, 2012
6:55 am
Andrea
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What happened to humans and following their instincts?

We have no instincts to kill animals, no instincts to suck on another mammals breasts for milk, no instincts to eat grains/seeds(nuts,coconut,etc..), and no instincts to eat branches like broccoli...what everyone calls "vegetables".

The only instincts we have is towards sugar and the only natural sugar is fruit. We also have hands to pick fruits off the tree.

We can't live in a cold climate without a tropical place.. a house. We are tropical beings meant to eat tropical fruit.

We are frugivores.

The only problem is that we are too stupid to use technology to build greenhouses so we can grow tropical fruits. Tropical fruits most of you have never seen in your lives.

Don't ask me if you have these "instincts". Do everyone a favor and ask yourself!

January 8, 2012
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So, what about fructose? We can't digest it! Duh!

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January 10, 2012
10:22 am
Mark
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Did you know that when dead cannibals are given autopsies, up to 40 pounds of vegetarian idiots are found in there? IT IS A FACT! Remote viewers have absolutely PROVED this is so! And a noted scientific journal, (the Philidelphia Enquirer), have absolutely CONFIRMED this! So "nanny-nanny boo-boo" Mr Stanton!
How DARE you confuse us with scientific proof and irrefutable facts! We know what we WANT to believe, so please don't try and change our minds with "scientific facts" and "proof". What did "proof" ever prove anyway? (Good job dude, hope I amused you).

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